Can Friesians be white or chestnut on extremely rare occasions?



I read somewhere that they can, but it was an unreliable resource. I’ve seen pictures of chestnuts but they were black with chestnut dapples, really. So I’m just wondering
Alright thanks guys! This really helps as I have bought a Friesian stallion and I am looking into getting a mare soon and I am hoping to breed, train and sell them in the future! I hope I can get a pure chestnut! LOL!


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17 comments a "Can Friesians be white or chestnut on extremely rare occasions?"

Nope, true purebred Friesians are always black :-)

Ah I do believe I am wrong! *feels silly*..check this out:

”The Friesian is probably best known for its black color and luxurious mane, tail, and ‘feathers’ (long, untrimmed hair on the lower legs). The official breed rarely has white markings of any kind, because registries allow only a small star on the forehead for purebred conformance. Though extremely rare, Friesians are sometimes chestnut, these horses can not be registered. “Fire Magic” is an example of a chestnut Friesian.”
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So only black Friesians can be registered aparantly…. :)

I’ve only heard of Friesians being chestnut on very rare occasions. You can NEVER get a grey friesian by breeding two black friesians but there is a chance that two black friesians carry the recessive red gene in which case you have a 25% chance the foal will be chestnut.

There is one chestnut I know of out there right now whose name is Obizuth.

A true 100% Friesian cannot be grey. It just doesn’t work genetically. Howevery they CAN be chestnut (although it is rare). The most famous chestnut is a stallion called Fire Magic. He is GORGEOUS!

There is a grey stallion they call a “grey friesian” called Nero bur really he is only 3/4 Friesian.

What’s with all the TROLLS giving so many thumbs downs on this question? People have good answers! Go away trolls!

No! Friesians can only be black very dark bay or very dark brown. White and chestnut friesians do not exist! However a white friesian would look magnificant!!

The June 2008 issue of Horse Illustrated features “Fabulous Friesians” and in characteristics is says “Jet black is the preferred color, although shades of brown exist in the breed. A small white star is allowed”. I’m glad you asked that question because I hadn’t read the article. After reading the article I want one! What a cool horse in every way!

As others have said, they can be chestnut, but it is very rare. I suppose one could also be an albino and therefore white, but I have never seen or heard of such a horse.

As for the dapples, many friesians’ coats fade to brown in the sun, and if the horse has dapples (I have seen a couple that do, VERY faintly ) then they will show when the horse’s coat is sunbleached. The vast majority of them do not have dapples, though, and some do not bleach out in the sun as much as others.

I’m sure there is, i could be wrong. But there are palomino Gypsy Vanners so maybe!

I know friesian sport horses who are different colors but that also means they arent full blooded either. Off to google!

heres a chestnut friesian

chestnut friesians are called “fox” friesians. Heres a white friesian

I cant find the friesian registry page so im not sure if other colored friesians can be registered as a friesian. I have to disagree with the first poster, if the horse is full blooded i have no doubt they would let you register them. Look at the white friesian above, im sure that horse would need to be registered to compete at high levels like that

ohhh i see! im glad you asked this question im learning! So white friesians can’t be full blooded.

I read somewhere about a genetically confirmed red pure Fresian. This site references it.

As for white…you may see a horse (any horse; not Fresian) that appears white to the eye, but it is genetically a maximal sabino or a grey that has faded out. I’ve not heard of either, or for that matter, the lethal white gene in Fresians, and I imagine it would be highly uncommon in a breed that has no “chrome.”

In regards to purebred Fresians…
White? NO.
Chestnut? YES!

A purebred Freisian can be CHESTNUT in extremely rare instances — I think there are currently less than a half dozen documented cases. Here is a link to one:
Baby Story
Adult Pic

The Freisian registry will register purebred CHESTNUTS, but their offspring is ineligible to discourage the color trait.

Although there have been a couple of popular competing horses, labelled WHITE Freisians this animals are actually 75% Freisian with other breeds mixed in that incorporated the grey and white color genes.

The rare Friesian can be chestnut, yes.

a purbreed freisian is straight black and you cannot reg them if they are any other color so a half breed could be them colors

Most purebred are straight black but there are some prototypes that can be different colors

I work on a Friesian farm in Ocala, Florida and I know that Friesians are all black, they may be borm with a little white star of a white foot but that is about it. You may have seen a sunbleached friesian OR Friesians can be born with what we call a “red” gene and they will always have a little bit of a red tint to them. They won’t let you bring them to the Keurings to be registered though. They do not recognize the Friesians with that red gene although they can be pure bred. Hope this helps.

true friesians are always black, but I think there was a breed of horse called like the English Friesian, where it was chestnut. But it didn’t look like a friesian at all.

although, I think a white friesian would be amazing.

They can becuase I have a poster in my room of a White Friesian. Yet, The breed is not designed to have white in the breed. The horse wouldn’t be pureblood.

No they can’t if they are pure Friesian. I have owned Friesians for a while and if you want a chestnut you can’t register it. Friesians must be all black with no white. Only a few white hairs on the forehead is acceptable.

Yes friesians can be chestnut, you can have a genetic test done to establish wether he carries the chestnut gene, and I think they are going to have one soon for dwarfism and hydrocephaly.
I would also point out if you have bought a friesian stallion and are going to start breeding them – the foals will be worth very little and be frowned upon unless you have bought one of the approved stallions @ £300,000+!!! So if you are wanting to be in the FPS clique then don’t use an unapproved stallion!!

I would if I were you look up all the genetic problems, there are 16 serious ones that I know of, alot of them are life threatening! The breed suffers from very poor fertility and other breeding issues and they are a real faff to breed due to their seriously small gene pool!! Mares can be very difficult to AI due to follicle size compared to every other breed so if you go down that route make sure vets are aware.
If you do breed from him have his fertility checked before you start trying to cover mares, as had a friend who took on several mares with a young stallion only to discover he was firing blanks!!! You also need a computer program to calculate the inbreeding percentage of your stallion on any mare. And make sure you have all the blood tests and swabs done every breeding season and on every mare as well as your stallion, as another friend bought a mare from holland that tested positive for EVA – it’s on the increase.

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